• Beste forumleden, we maken nu gebruik van nieuw forum software. Je oude wachtwoord werkt hier niet meer. Klik op aanmelden en dan op de link "wachtwoord vergeten". Je kunt dan je wachtwoord opnieuw instellen.

Onze kaken worden zwakker

-B.arr

New member
OK, ik ben om. Al jaren roept mijn man dat het een goed idee zou zijn de amalgaam vullingen te verwijderen en jullie geven mij het laatste setje. Ik moet bekennen dat ik steeds maar weer tegenargumenten verzin omdat ik zo moe ben van de medische wereld en alle discussies met die eigenwijze witte jassen dragers.

Weten jullie misschien een of meerdere tandartsen (liefst een beetje in de buurt van de kop van Noord Holland) waar ik terecht kan voor amalgaam verwijdering? Uiteraard zit hier in de buurt vast wel een tandarts, maar ik heb geen zin om eerst heel moeilijk te discussiëren en vervolgens ook nog maar eens af te wachten of de verwijdering wel op de juiste manier gebeurd. Ik hoop op een ervaringsdeskundige :)

Op de site van Ralph Moorman trof ik al wel deze tandarts aan. Ziet er prima uit, maar ik hoop ook op wat ervaringen van jullie kant.

Ik noemde hierboven wel de ACTA, maar bedacht me later dat het dan wel goedkoper is, maar dat ik er ook veel meer reistijd, brandstof en discussies aan kwijt ben.

 
G

Guest

Guest
graag gedaan, laat maar horen wat je doet en wat er gedaan wordt.

 

-B.arr

New member
Zal ik zeker doen :)

Oei, ik ben helemaal opgelucht dat er meerdere tandartsen blijken te zijn die amalgaamverwijdering vermelden in hun takenpakket. Geen ellenlange, niet te winnen discussies die alleen maar stress opleveren, maar gewoon dóen. Jippie!

 

Webmaster

New member
Vraag via secondopiniontandarts een protocol aan waar de tandarts zich aan dient te houden tijdens de amalgaamverwijdering.

Mike

 
G

Guest

Guest
https://www.fatsforum.nl/topic/helpgoede-bio-tandarts

Joep Rieter in Bloemendaal heeft de praktijk overgenomen van Fred Neelissen en kent de benodigde protocollen.

Dat is toch al in de richting maar niet in de kop Heksje.

Ik wil misschien ook bij hem een afspraak maken.

Bij ons in de buurt zit tandarts Wisse (Leerdam), die schijnt ook goed te zijn.

 

-B.arr

New member
@Mike: goed idee! (Waar haal je ze allemaal vandaan? Kan je zien wat al dat WAP eten doet :wink: )

@Marijan: bedankt voor de tip. Bloemendaal is niet heel erg in de buurt, maar wonende in de kop van Noord Holland ben ik wel gewend dat ik moet reizen. :wink:

Via de site waar Sheila mij hierboven op wees kwam ik ook terecht op een adres van de heer Heintzberger in Uitgeest. Ik trof over hem elders op het net de volgende informatie (m.b.t. een lezing) aan die me wel erg aanspreekt:

Quote:
Bert Heintzberger is bio-energetisch tandarts wonend in Uitgeest NH. Bert is zeer gedreven om te vertellen wat er mis is met: Amalgaam, zenuwbehandelingen, materiaal van kronen, schade door articaine (verdovingsvloeistof), etc. Wat hebben chakra's met het gebit te maken? De theorie van Weston Price, een praktiserend tandarts in de jaren 30 van de vorige eeuw, is hem ook zeer bekend. Bert denkt zoals alle tandartsen zouden moeten denken: in het belang van het totale lichaam.


 
G

Guest

Guest
ik heb de lezing van Bert Heintzberger bezocht en hij was niet voor melk.

Voor de rest wel eeen goed verhaal.

 

-B.arr

New member
O, dat is dan een minder goed bericht :evil: Iets om rekening mee te houden in mijn onderzoekje naar een goede amalgaam verwijderaar. Bedankt Marijan!

 

Gadsie

New member
Ik heb net hoofdstuk 9 van Cure Tooth Decay gelezen en ik werd er behoorlijk depressief van. Er wordt beschreven dat je nooit helemaal genezen als de "bite" van je gebit niet goed is (wat tegenwoordig eigenlijk bij eigenlijk iedereen het geval is). Dit is omdat niet al je kiezen mooi op elkaar zitten en als je kiezen mooi op elkaar zitten wordt er een seintje door je hele lichaam gestuurd dat je lichaam zich kan ontspannen. Conventionele orthodontie helpt niet, maar "functional orthopedics" zou wel kunnen werken. Heeft iemand ervaring met functional orthopedics?

 
G

Guest

Guest
je kan eens mailen naar www.praktijksolleveld.nl

kijk maar eens op zijn website, hij kan je vast wel helpen of door verwijzen

 

Gadsie

New member
Natuurlijk. Ik zie dat ze inderdaad orthopedische mogelijkheden hebben. Ik ga me nog iets meer verdiepen in wat Ramiel nagel precies bedoelt en dan zal ik de praktijk mailen wat de mogelijkheden daarvoor zijn

 

Lievergezond

Well-known member

Craniofacial Dystrophy : Modern Melting Faces | Dr. Mike Mew |
Published on Mar 20, 2014

Subscribe on Youtube: http://t21c.com/12YTr3X
Self-educate: http://21university.com
Event tickets & videos : http://store.the21convention.com

Visit Dr. Mew at : http://www.orthotropics.co.uk/dr-michael-mew/
Full title : Craniofacial Dystrophy: Modern Melting Faces

Abstract:

Thirty percent of the population of most western countries have some form of orthodontic treatment - some with major jaw surgery - for a condition that, based on skeletal records, did not appear until modern times. In some situations, this change has happened in one generation and mirrors many ENT conditions, jaw joint problems, sleep apnoea and snoring, in having a poorly understood aetiology or cure.

The concept of Craniofacial Dystrophy is one that attempts to relate all these issues as a syndrome and suggests that faces have changed shape due to environmental influences and that the functions of the face are affected by these changes. It is suggested that this has been overlooked by specialists working in isolation to each other, avoiding fundamental questions that may bring uncomfortable change to their profession.

Treatments tend to be symptomatic and within orthodontics it is suggested that we are treating a condition of the environment as if it were genetic and when viewed as a syndrome, these treatments may be causing more harm than good. Dr Mew has challenged the orthodontic profession to a debate on the cause of crooked teeth, for if we don't know what causes a problem it is unlikely that we will be able to cure it.

About Dr. Mike Mew

Dr .Mike Mew, B.D.S., M.Sc., a third generation orthodontist, is a free thinker and questions why we need mechanical intervention, with retention, to achieve well aligned teeth, which was natural for all our ancestors their entire lives.

Dr Michael Mew qualified in the early 1990s as dentist at the Royal London Hospital. He later entered the renowned Orthodontic programme at Aarhus University in Denmark under the mentorship of Professor Birte Melsen. After several years in general practice, facial surgery and orthodontic training at the NHS, he qualified as an Orthodontist in the early 2000s.

For the last 15 years, he has practiced alongside his father, Professor John Mew, to improve the Bioblock Orthotropic system. Dr Mew continues to study the relationship between orthodontics, posture, ENT problems, snoring and sleep apnea.

He is particularly interested in the Aetiology of Malocclusion and seeks to construct a broad based theory explaining its causes and cures. Dr Mew has lectured extensively in the U.K. and abroad.

Visit Dr. Mew at : http://www.orthotropics.co.uk/dr-michael-mew/

This video was published under the Creative Commons license provided by the Ancestry Foundation non-profit Youtube Channel.

Original video link :
Subscribe to their Youtube channel : http://www.youtube.com/user/AncestryFoundation
Visit the website : http://www.ancestralhealth.org/




 

Lievergezond

Well-known member
How Can We Get Great Prominent Jawline by Improving Body, Neck & Tongue Posture by Dr Mike Mew
Orthotropics
Published on Jul 12, 2015

Contact us at:
Orthodontic Health Limited
Email: theclinic@orthotropic.co.uk
Tel. No: 00442086603695
Address: 16A Pampisford Road
Purley
Greater London
United Kingdom
CR8 2NE

For More Update Videos & News, check the following links:

Orthotropics Facebook Page
http://www.facebook.com/orthotropics

London School of Facial Orthotropics
http://www.lsfo.co.uk

International Association of Facial Growth Guidance (Orthotropics)
http://www.orthotropics.com

The Clinic for Facial Orthotropics
http://www.orthotropics.co.uk

Should Tongue Rest/ Touch at the Palate/ Maxilla/ Roof of the Mouth by Dr Mike Mew
Orthotropics
Published on May 2015

 

Lievergezond

Well-known member
Abnormal growth of the face due to mouth breathing

Did you know that if your child grows up breathing through their mouth, their face may develop abnormally? In summary, mouth breathing causes unattractive and unhealthy children.

Please read extracts from medical papers below.

1) ‘116 paediatric patients who had undergone orthodontic treatment. Mouth breathers demonstrated considerable backward and downward rotation of the mandible, increased overjet (buck teeth), increase in the mandible plane angle (longer face), a higher palatal plane (affects upper airways), and narrowing of both upper and lower arches at the level of canines and first molars compared to the nasal breathers group (overcrowding of teeth). The prevalence of a posterior cross bite was significantly more frequent in the mouth breathers group (49%) than nose breathers (26%)(P = .006). Abnormal lip-to-tongue anterior oral seal was significantly more frequent in the mouth breathers group (56%) than in the nose breathers group (30%).’ Doron Harari DMD et al. 2010 The effect of mouth breathing versus nasal breathing on dentofacial and craniofacial development in orthodontic patients. The American Laryngological, Rhinological, and Otological Society, Inc. 2010 Oct;120(10):2089-93.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20824738


2) ‘a mouth breather lowers the tongue position to facilitate the flow of air in to the expanding lungs. The resultant effect is maldevelopment of the jaw in particular and deformity of the face in general. Setting of the teeth on the jaw is also affected. All these make the face look negative.’ Care of nasal airway to prevent orthodontic problems in children J Indian Med association 2007 Nov; 105 (11):640,642)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/18405091


3) ‘the switch from a nasal to an oronasal (mouth and nose combined) breathing pattern induces functional adaptations that include an increase in total anterior face height and vertical development of the lower anterior face’ Tourne. The long face syndrome and impairment of the nasopharyngeal airway. Angle Orthod 1990 Fall 60(3) 167- 76
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2202236


4) ‘Long-standing nasal obstruction appears to affect craniofacial morphology during periods of rapid facial growth in genetically susceptible children with narrow facial pattern.’ ‘The deleterious effects of nasal obstruction are virtually complete by puberty so the window of opportunity is relatively brief. Delay in intervention may result in unsuccessful orthodontic treatment which may require surgery at an older age.’ ‘Effective orthodontic therapy may require the elimination of the nasal obstruction to allow for normalization of the facial musculature surrounding the dentition.’ Schreiner C (1996) Nasal air way obstruction in children and secondary dental deformities. UTMB, Dept. of Otolaryngology, G rand Rounds Presentation
http://www.utmb.edu/otoref/grnds/nasala.htm


5) In a study of 47 children between the ages of six to 15 years to determine the correlation between breathing mode and craniofacial morphology, ‘findings demonstrated a significant predominance of mouth breathing compared to nasal breathing in the vertical growth patterns studied. Results show a correlation between obstructed nasal breathing, large adenoids and vertical growth pattern.’ Baumam I, Plindert PK (1996) Effect of breathing mode and nose ventilation on growth of the facial bones. HNO 44(5): 229-34
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/8707626


6) Children with obligate mouth-breathing due to nasal septum deviations show facial and dental anomalies in comparison to nose-breathing controls. Int J Pediatr Otorhinolaryngol. 2010 Oct;74(10):1180-3. Craniofacial growth in children with nasal septum deviation: a cephalometric comparative study. D'Ascanio L, Lancione C, Pompa G, Rebuffini E, Mansi N, Manzini M.
http://www.ijporlonline.com/article/S0165-5876(10)00312-5/abstract


7) A study of 73 children between the ages of three and six years concluded that ‘mouth breathing can influence craniofacial and occlusal development early in childhood ’ Mattar SE et al (2004) Skeletal and occlusal characteristics in mouth-breathing pre-school children. J Clin Pediatr Dent 28(4): 315-318
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15366619


8) ‘The main characteristics of the respiratory obstruction syndrome (blocked nose) are presence of hypertrophied tonsils or adenoids, mouth breathing, open bite, cross bite, excessive anterior face height, incompetent lip posture, excessive appearance of maxillary anterior teeth, narrow external nares and V-shaped maxillary arch.’ Lopatiene K, Babarsk as A (2002) Malocclusion and upper airway obstruction. Medicina 38(3): 277-283
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12663102


9) “Lack of growth affects the whole face and is associated with flat cheeks, unattractive lips, large noses, tired eyes, double chin, receding chins and sloping forehead, features that will be readily recognised when there is a pronounced crowding of teeth.” (Mew JR C, 1986)
http://www.buteykoclinic.com/normal-cranio-facial-development.html


10) The nose will seem larger, similar to that of a roman nose. The ‘nose is more pronounced in an ideal occlusion but in the various malocclusions where the maxilla is underdeveloped it appears larger, although in fact it is smaller ’ (Mew JR C, 1986).
http://www.buteykoclinic.com/normal-cranio-facial-development.html


11) “Children whose mouth breathing is untreated may develop long, narrow faces, narrow mouths, high palatal vaults, dental malocclusion (crooked teeth), gummy smiles and many other unattractive facial features.” General dentist: Mouth breathing: adverse effects on facial growth, health, academics and behaviour. Jefferson Y, 2010 Jan- Feb; 58 (1): 18-25
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20129889


12) ‘Clinical and cephalometric data of 207 children who presented for evaluation of tonsil and/or adenoid problems were evaluated. Specifically, a more open lip posture was associated with a more backwardly rotated face and larger lower facial height. Reduced sagittal airway size was associated with en bloc backward relocation of the maxilla and mandible.’
Trotman CA, McNamara JA Jr, Dibbets JM, van der Weele LT. (1997) Association of lip posture and the dimensions of the tonsils and sagittal airway with facial morphology. The Angle Orthodontist 1997;67(6):425-32.
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/9428960


13) In a dreadful study involving monkeys who were forced to breathe through their mouths; ‘The experiments showed that the monkeys adapted to nasal obstruction in different ways. In general, the experimental animals maintained an open mouth. All experimental animals gradually acquired a facial appearance and dental occlusion different from those of the control animals.’ All the mouth breathing monkeys developed craniofacial changes and crooked teeth. Egil P Harvold. Primate experiments on oral respiration. American Journal of orthodontics. Volume 79, issue 4, April 1981, pages 359- 372)
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/6939331


14) The mouth-breathing monkeys developed crooked teeth and other facial deformities, including “a lowering of the chin, a steeper mandibular plane angle, and an increase in the gonial angle as compared with the eight control animals.” Tomer, Harvold Ep. 1982 Primate experiments on mandibular growth direction. Am J Orthod 1982 Aug: 82 (2): 114-9
http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0002941682904900


15) ‘His granddaughter had pinched nostrils and narrowed face. Her dental arches were deformed and her teeth crowded. She was a mouth breather. She had the typical expression of the result of modernisation after the parents had adopted the modern foods of commerce, and abandoned the oatcake, oatmeal porridge and sea foods.’
Dr Weston Price Nutrition and physical degeneration. Price Pottenger Nutrition; 8th edition (January 31, 2008)


16) Study of 26 children, Kerr showed how development of the lower jaws began to normalise after they switched from mouth to nasal breathing Kerr WJ, McWilliam s JS, et al. Mandibular form and position related to changes mode of breathing – a five year longitudinal study. Angle Orthod 1987;59:91-96
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2729669


17) A good-looking face is determined by a strong, sturdy chin, developed jaws, high cheekbones, good lips, correct nose size and straight teeth. When a face develops correctly, it follows that the teeth will be straight. Straight teeth do not create a good-looking face, but a good-looking face will create straight teeth. Patrick McKeown 2010 Buteyko meets Dr Mew Conclusion ‘If mouth breathing is treated early, its negative effect on facial and dental development and the medical and social problems associated with it can be reduced or averted.’ General dentist: Mouth breathing: adverse effects on facial growth, health, academics and behaviour. Jefferson Y, 2010 Jan- Feb; 58 (1): 18-25
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20129889 http://www.buteykoclinic.com/breathe-through-your-nose-week.html
 

Forum statistieken

Onderwerpen
4.268
Berichten
341.442
Leden
8.142
Nieuwste lid
yves
Word vaste donateur van dit forum
Bovenaan