Andrew Wilson

To all the guys on here acting like supporting Andrew Wilson somehow proves how tough or masculine you are:

It doesn’t.

In my opinion, Andrew’s performance wasn’t strength. The smugness, talking over a woman, mockery, condescension, constant “gotchas” and trying to dominate the conversation while repeatedly misrepresenting what she said looked weak.

Being a man isn’t about being louder than a woman.

If Candace Owens has the better evidence, the better command of the case and is telling the truth on a particular point, then the masculine thing is simple:

Say she’s right.

Truth doesn’t have a gender.

Real strength is being secure enough to admit when a woman knows more than you do, argues better than you do, or beats a man in a debate.

You want to show people what kind of man you are?

Have some integrity.
Control yourself.
Listen.
Tell the truth.
Admit when you’re wrong.
Protect people instead of humiliating them.
And stop confusing arrogance with strength.

That’s masculinity.

The rest is performance.



Mike
 
Pickles: “That officer, the first officer that was up on the roof, do you remember his name?”

Candace: “Officer Bagley”

Pickles: “Yeah, what was his first name?”

Candace: “Christopher.”

He then proceeds to ask Candace if she thinks Bagley planted the screwdriver on the roof to which Candace replied “No”.

He then asks “Who do you think planted it?”

At first I thought Pickles was being annoying by trying to quiz her to see if she knew the officer’s full name, but looking back, I think he was trying to set her up to make a claim about the officer so that they could sue her for defamation. He had to make sure she said his full name. It was, and still is, a coordinated group effort to try to silence Candace. It was as though they were each building toward the same defamation claim against her. Andrew’s sole purpose was to provoke and annoy her into saying something she shouldn’t, including sharing who her sources are & sharing anything else that she knows about the case. All of them (Neff, Kolvet, Frantzve, Bagley, Flood, Harpole) were waiting for her to slip up, in my opinion.



Mike
 
Nope. I can explain what happened on that three hour livestream for you @GrahamAllen, but to quote Candace, I can't understand it for you.

Andrew Wilson was paid to show up and "debate" on behalf of TPUSA, i.e. their mega-wealthy donors. That's who Andrew was defending. Candace was speaking for the rest of us, at least those who can see through the op and the slop.

To break it down to the most basic level, Candace and Andrew both had central claims. Candace believes there was a conspiracy to kill Charlie. Andrew believes that there is overwhelming evidence that it was Tyler and demanded "proof" of a conspiracy.

Andrew stepped off a cliff in the first few minutes. PBD asked him what he thought were the chances Tyler killed Charlie. His answer: 75%. If there was a 1 in 4 chance in his mind that Tyler killed Charlie, how can there be overwhelming evidence of it? The two points are mutually exclusive.

Andrew summed up his position on Candace at the end. "She doesn't have a shred of evidence that there was a conspiracy. She has NOTHING."

The reason why he thinks she has nothing is because the Feds, i.e. at least one of the alleged conspirators, hasn't confirmed the "evidence" she has found. While he is correct, he's being idiotic and dogmatic. Does he not know what a conspiracy is? It's a collusion between two or more interests working covertly. In this case, one of the conspirators is our own authorities. How can he use their stamp of approval as the only way to validate her evidence? It was an asinine approach to the debate. It's like quoting your scripture to an atheist as proof that they are wrong and expect the conversation to get anywhere.

Or perhaps a better example: There's no proof that Lee Harvey Oswald was a patsy because the Warren Commission never confirmed that.

What Candace actually has brought forward to her audience in these past 11 months was a long list of obvious facts that indicate that our authorities and/or TPUSA are misleading us:

1) Why was TPUSA not interested in knowing more details about what happened that day?
2) Why was Erika so quick to forgive Tyler in the first 48 hours but denigrate anyone who had questions?
3) Why were there no ambulance or medical personnel attending to Charlie at the scene?
4) Why was Charlie taken to the ER in an SUV with no resuscitative equipment?
5) Why did TPUSA insist that there was clear evidence that Tyler shot Charlie but the videos are blurry and not definitive?
6) Why was there dust and debris in the barrel of the supposed murder weapon?
7) Why was Tyler's the most degraded DNA on his own gun?
8 Why did UVU dig up all the dirt around the crime scene within two days by order of the FBI?
9) Why did a TPUSA member take the memory cards out of the camera behind Charlie a few minutes after he was murdered?
10) Why was the coroner's report inconsistent with a gunshot to the Left neck? A downward trajectory into his left neck cannot result in both damage to the upper cervical spine AND lung hemorrhaging on the Right.
11) Countless gun experts are on record saying that that was not the damage caused by a Mauser 30 06.
12) Why was the autopsy conducted within a few hours, before the body could even be cooled enough to prevent decomposition?
13) Why all the secrecy around what happened to the body afterwards. Was he cremated? Why?
14) Why was the SUV not impounded pending completion of the investigation but steam cleaned and sold?
15) Why was tyler's love interest, Lance Twiggs, clear that Tyler was apolitical, never talked about Charlie Kirk or LGBTQ issues with him, yet took it upon himself to murder Charlie for his conservative stances?
16) Why did PM Netanyahu take to the airwaves within hours telling the world that Charlie loved Israel and that leftists working with Islamic interests were responsible for the murder before anyone knew what happened?

Unless there is a coherent explanation for all of these things it becomes clear that there was a conspiracy to frame Tyler Robinson. In other words, he WAS a patsy.
To put it another way, the only way to make sense of all of these points is to concede that the only power capable of pulling this off were the Feds working in collusion with TPUSA insiders and possibly foreign influence.

Andrew proved himself to be a hired "debate thug" who was completely unprepared and jonesing for nicotine for three hours. He couldn't name one of the seven charges Tyler was facing and was incredulous that anyone could name all seven. Candace calmly did. And then he insinuated that someone texted her the list in real time. No one did. He could have taken the Loss on that one and moved on, instead he bet that Candace was bluffing. Candace had the cards.

Anyone with a reasonable mind must conclude that Andrew got smoked and blew $300K of TPUSA's money. Epic failure.

It's also telling that this is the guy TPUSA hired as their debate coach. I can understand why. Given the fact that he had nothing to say other than what the authorities have reported and didn't know the basics of the actual court case he managed to convince people like you that he won "HANDS DOWN". That's the best they could ever do and all they could ever hope for.



Mike
 

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